The right age to start throwing a slider or curveball is between 14 and 15 , which gives a player enough time to develop the pitch (takes 1-3 years) so that it's good by the time the college recruiting process heats up. There seems little doubt that Feller had one of the hardest fastballs of all time. Jimenez doesnt get much attention as a power pitcher because he walks so many batters (nearly four every nine innings), but when hes on, there might not be a better pitcher in baseball. Pitchers were required to throw underhand until 1883. What is Mitchell Starc's fastest ball speed? The bullpen was for youngsters, oldsters and bushers. Mathewson et al. I thought I might give Bob Feller something to worry about. If you want to share an another or provide an accurate game date for those we have in the chart please send us an email. At least thats what the Indians keep telling themselves. He struck out 276 batters in 218 innings as arookiein 1984 and then came back the next season to win the Cy Young award by striking out 268 batters in 276.2 innings. Clemens is known for a lot of things, and being a power pitcher is certainly one of them. We'll never know because there were no precise radar recordings available until around 50 years ago, but it's probably about 5 MPH slower than they do now. He was sometimes called the fastest pitcher in baseball history and had a fastball that probably exceeded 100 mph (160 km/h). It measured velocity closer to the pitchers release point than the JUGS gun, so the JUGS flipped to being the slow gun. I dont imagine it was easy pitching back then, but its got to be more grueling today. It may simply be that pitchers throwing fewer innings is a product of stretegy, not a change in ability. Perhaps I'm wrong on this, but it's just a theory of mine. Chapman's speed came in only one game during his career. Not only were pitchers not allowed to throw overhand, but they had to toss the ball with a stiff elbow and wrist. A man of about 60 years old did a foot for each of his years. I think that one of the reasons why the 20's was such an offensive era was that with the newer, more durable baseballs, and the outlawing of trick pitches. In addition to being incredibly fast, modern-day pitchers can also throw very hard. There were freak arms throughout history. This is the main reason. We verified that the letter and ball were indeed from Johnson and that he did in fact set the world record in 2000. Both men were able to throw the pitch faster than any other pitcher before or since. He also finished second six other times. Overall, Ryan went 1-2 with a 5.40 ERA in three games back from surgery on his right shoulder. - Ford Frick, "Smokey Joe (Williams) could throw harder than all of them." By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I wound up and gave it all I had. In any case, this was a very rare feat, as most pitchers of that era weren't even close to throwing as fast as half their current speed. During his Cy Young season in 2003, Gagne struck out 137 batters in 82.1 innings for a SO/9 ratio of 15.0. The same goes for an infielder.". Thus making this document worthy enough for display in our museum. Hes a lock to reach 3,000 if he stays healthy, and at 28 years old, he may just be getting better. Strikeouts are only a part of his dominance, but in just 1,260 career innings, the 65 righty already has 1,161 strikeouts and is pitching no-hitters like hes Nolan Ryan. http://www.kingandhiscourt.com/articles/article6.htm. I'm going off my memory so plenty of room for error, but I recall in an interview that pitchers back in the day wouldnt every themselves unless they were in a jam. This time was measured in the past 1999 baseball season. The device measures the ball's speed between the two points and flashes it on a scale facing the pitcher. The AL East is setting up as a race for the ages, Albert Pujols' push for 3,000 powered by dominant decade, 'Ich-i-ro! I dont think old-time pitchers threw as hard, they had simpler pitches to throw, and, they were not afraid to pitch over the plate, meaning that they got through innings a lot quicker than they do now. He even saved four games for good measure. - Eddie Collins. Ich-i-ro!' Mostly, pitchers tended to save themselves for key situations. Who was president when the Orioles threw out the first pitch? update=copyright.getFullYear(); On the other hand, it's also possible that Feller didn't throw as hard in 1946 as he did in 1938 or 1939. Plus, it's hard to know, 70 years later, how precise the Lumiline Chronograph was. Satchel Paige, who could bring on the heat himself, believed Feller was the fastest and told teammates, "If anybody threw that ball any harder than Rapid Robert, then the human eye couldn't follow it." In a game against the Detroit Tigers on August 20, 1974, the then-Angels . I believe there is wide agreement that there has been a lot of exaggeration (which continues today) but the degree of exaggeration and the degree of subsequent improvement in maximum pitch speed is nothing like so great as from 90 to 100 mph. No longer could pitchers rely on wicked movement. Cleveland men who developed the speed meter said the only comparable scientific marks were made in 1917. You put your best pitchers in the starting rotation. "That was my best year," he told the Cleveland Plain Dealer in 2006. Despite his failure, he has been described as the fastest pitcher ever. A few minutes later, Feller walked out to a loud ovation, $700 richer. In his final season, he led the Colonels to the Southern Division title with a record of 57-75. Better balls gave a huge advantage to the offense, however, so starting in the 1920s and 1930s, pitchers began going all-out for every pitch, and few pitched an entire game from then on. Let's start with this date in history. . "Rising velocity is just an evolution in the game . Hes actually more or less the same pitcher as Juan Marichal, and. We finished in the second division, 18 games below .500 in sixth place. Location, location, location. Papelbon wouldve been a great starter, but the hard-throwing right-hander makes a pretty terrific closer too. Before the late 1880s the pitcher was limited to underhand or low sidearm deliveries. (Yes, nitpickers, Im aware that John Wheeler ghosted Mattys book.). Bob Feller was measured at 98.6 MPH. That year, Amos Rusie led the National League with 482 innings. It was common for pitchers to "coast" until a runner got into scoring position. Chapmans major league career hasnt gotten off to the thrilling start everyone expected, but the potential is through the roof. Pitchers dont usually return from Tommy John surgery with the same velocity, so we may never see the flame-throwing Strasburg ever again. Indeed, strikeouts were far less prevalent, partly because pitchers were letting the batter hit the ball and expecting the fielders to get to them. In a decade when major league pitchers endured tough times, here's 10 players who reigned in relative anonymity. They must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel! As long as hitters kept missing it, I was going to keep throwing it. Even Lee Meadows, who pitched for the Chicago White Sox from 1939 to 1942, never reached 100 mph on a regular basis. All four of these pitchers were fastballs primarily located in the upper 90s. As for other hard numbers for those days: two hours and 15 minutes was considered an ordinary game back then. Other fast pitchers have included Carl Hubbell, Jack Quinn, and Roy Halladay. Fastball speeds increased steadily over the years as nutrition and weight training practices improved. How were the arms of starters spared? ", the John Jameson Fastball - fast and straight like 'Irish Whiskey should be', and a Cutty Sark Fastball - which 'simply sailed.'. Mike Trout I pitched a no-hitter in Yankee Stadium. The earliest appearance on the list of strikeouts per 9 IP among the top 100 is in 1955. You throw into a hole two feet square. In high school he pitched a no-hitter while walking 18 and striking out 18. The new meter, which gives an immediate reading which engineers said compared with standard laboratory meter accuracy, is built in a trailer. After nine years of erratic pitching he was released in 1966, never having made it to the Major Leagues. Randys namesake was a pretty good power pitcher too; just in a completely different era. The next year, Andy Pettitte of the New York Yankees broke this record again with a ball that traveled at 103.3 miles per hour (167.4 km/h or 45.5 m/s). It would be interesting to time-travel Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, and Pedro Martinez in their youths back to 1894 and see how their careers as 450-inning starters would have fared. The 610 left-hander topped 300 Ks five times in his career (including an eye-popping 372 in 249.2 innings in 2001) and led his league in Ks nine times in 22 major league seasons. For decades, comparing pitch velocities has often been an apples-and-oranges discussion. Youre definitely on to something here. Ted Williams once stood in a spring training batting cage and took one pitch from Dalkowski. Now they have 60 due to expanded ballparks and/or alternate site games being played away from home. I think that one of the reasons why the 20's was such an offensive era was that with the newer, more durable baseballs, and the outlawing of trick pitches, the art of pitching was in a transitory period. Spitballs and Sliders: 1900s to 1920s. An official reading is unavailable because Dalkowski pitched in the 1950s and 1960s, but some have estimated his fastball could reach 105 mph. Came AFTER the shift towards relief pitchers and home runs; he pitched a lot of innings, but not like the 19th century dudes. While in the minor leagues with Detroit, Ty Cobb reportedly told Hubbell to stop throwing the pitch. In addition, teams had only 40 fouls to play per game back then. The best mark he recorded was 119 feet. There will be a contest for pitchers later. Walter Johnson did not throw 99 mph for 370 innings in 1910. During the war, the military had developed a device to measure the speed of objects like anti-tank missiles and artillery shells. Three pitch speeds: slow, slower, and reverse." So Feller refused to take part, staying under the stands until (Senators owner Clark) Griffith was forced to come down to him and negotiate. Theres a reason the kid had two Cy Young awards by the time he was 25. But just because the third strike often eluded Gibson, doesnt mean that the Hall of Famer didnt throw hard. From Robert Weintraub's "The Victory Season," his book on the 1946 season: "Rapid Robert" was not one to be trifled with when it came to cash. Of course, you could have pitchers throw 350 innings a year now, too. The Rocket struck out 4,672 helpless batters during his career, third all-time. I had two or three different kinds of curve balls and a lot of confidence in each of them. Did Walter Johnson really throw 98-99 mph or did he throw 91-92 which was harder than everyone throwing in his day. Real or Not? No, pitchers didn't throw 150 miles an hour. Pitchers back then (deadball era) were expected to throw complete games and had to pace themselves. When Gagne walked to the mound, you knew he was probably going to embarrass you. He finished with 4,196 in his career, good for fourth all-time and second among left-handers. During spring training in 1964, Dalkowski was with the Major League club. Both Chapman and Hicks are relievers. Moving closer to the batter enabled catchers to better frame the pitches, field bunts, and throw out base-stealers. Gerrit Cole's approach bringing Cy Young results, Mookie Betts vs. Bryce Harper -- and other pressing baseball debates, Real or not? Originally Published: February 2003 on Baseball Almanac. I think it was pitcher Phil Hughes who commented on a Whitey Ford video on twitter, and said he was throwing 80 mph. President Alvin Bradley of the Cleveland Indians agreed and Rex D. McDill, Cleveland electronics engineer, built the machine. His 105.1 mph fastball breached the 105 mph mark for the first time. . They wanted to control, be durable, and pitch for a long time. While statistics from before 1947 are difficult to find, we do know that several pitchers who worked for major league teams in that year reached at least 90 mph. He probably had the second-best fastball of that era. Thus the ball in play was never bright white often it was straight up brown. In 1893 the pitcher's rear foot was moved farther from home plate to its current distance of 60 feet, 6 inches. Stephen Louis Dalkowski Jr. (June 3, 1939 - April 19, 2020), nicknamed Dalko, was an American left-handed pitcher . Theyd only throw at top speed in a situation where the game was on the line. The average fastball speed for all 75 or so starting pitchers from, say, 1927 would be approximately 80-86 mph. He topped 100 Ks in his first full season as the Los Angeles closer and regularly reached triple-digits. In 19 seasons in the Negro Leagues, Paige recorded 1,231 strikeouts in just over 1,500 innings. That right there is the difference between pitching and throwing. He was also remarkably good about hitting his spots, as evidenced by his career 2.96 SO/BB ratio. He pitched a one-hitter -- with nine walks and nine strikeouts. Thats why Chapmans fastest fastball found an extra .7 mph. He struck out at least 10 batters 12 times, which sounds even more impressive when you realize all other major league starters combined to do that just 20 times (nine of those by Hal Newhouser). The strikeout king (5,714) is so far and ahead of everyone that as impressive as his record seven ho-hitters are, theres only one guy (Randy Johnson) within even 1,000 Ks of his lifetime mark. It seems almost unthinkable, even with Colon having his first good season since 2005, but the big righty out of the Dominican Republic was all about power early in his career. Wood finished his career with just 989 strikeouts in 1,434.1 innings, but considering the era he was pitching in, those are some pretty outstanding numbers. The fastest pitcher ever may have been 1950s phenom and flameout Steve Dalkowski. However, Major League Baseball officially considers that pitch to be a 105.8 mph fastball. If only because most of the film I've seen of pitchers from that era just don't suggest that much effort was being expended. He ended his career with 2,192 strikeouts and a.249 batting average against him. What is the fastest a human has thrown a baseball? They all thought he was faster than Bob Feller and Walter Johnson, though none of them probably saw Johnson pitch. I looked at the stats for the Pirates (cuz theyre my favorite team), and this past year they averaged 133 pitches/9 innings (or about 4.75/out). After having it their way for the first two decades of the 20th Century, pitchers entered a dark age in which they were no longer allowed to use a ball that was dead, scuffed and (with few exceptions) wet. Answer (1 of 22): There were no radar guns in the days of Babe Ruth. Feller was sitting at 25. His story is not particularly well known outside of Houston, but Richards promising career as a starter came to an end at the age of 30 because of a life-threatening stroke. But then again throwing is mainly a talent thing and is not supposed to be improved by modern training very much. Bench continuously called for breaking balls and Maloney continuously shook him off. Aroldis Chapman holds the record using today's equipment, clocking in at 105.1 mph. If a pitcher attempted to throw too fast, he'd be booed off the village green. By 1890 overhand pitching was legal, and that is when we first hear about pitchers who were fearsomely fast, such as Amos Rusie and Cy Young. 16 falloutranger San Francisco Giants 8 yr. ago There have been three periods in baseball history when workloads for starting pitchers declined noticeably: 1) In the 1890s when the pitchers were pushed back to 60 feet, 6 inches; 2) In the early 1920s when the lively ball came out; and 3) In the 1990s when pitch counts became all the rage. Back in the 1880s-90s, these guys threw over 400 innings a season with regularity. Copyright 1999-2021. Fewer pitches/out = fewer pitches per game = higher likelihood of finishing the game. For scouts, the Speedgun was known as the slow gun while the JUGS gun registered faster readings and was the fast gun.. Realistically low to mid 80s. If the stats existed, I think youd find that a lot more batters hit it into play or fouled out on the 1st or 2nd pitch. Document Creator: Sean Holtz of Baseball Almanac, Inc. 2003-2005. So how was pitching different back then? McDowell, otherwise known as Sudden Sam, is another one of the pitchers youve probably never heard of unless you grew up as a Cleveland Indians fan during the 1960s and 1970s. Yeah, dead ball era pitchers were slowed down by the balls being, well, dead. Feller has also written that he slipped from the mound in a June 13, 1947 game against Philadelphia and injured his back, saying his fastball was never the same after that. Nolan Ryan earned his nickname "The Ryan Express.". Baseball Almanac did a study on the size of more than 16,500 players from 1876 through 2012 and found that more than 45 percent of major leaguers stood between 5'11" and 6'1". Its not often you find a starter who can throw up to 102 mph in any inning in any count on any day. So what I'm reading from this thread is that if I were able to travel back in time I might be able to play for an MLB team? (Amos Rusie in 1893). Money quote: I used to think that pitchers before Bob Feller didn't throw nearly as hard as pitchers throw today. That's interesting. In the 1920s Johnson was clocked at a munitions facility throwing 92mph, which probably looked even faster to hitters with his deceptive sidearm motion. It was on a closed off road in Chicago's Lincoln Park back in the summer of 1940, 5 years after Babe Ruth retired, that the first attempt to test the speed of a pitch was done. "You should see the scouts, " said Braves speed gun handler Jim Guadagno, "They're like kids with new toys when they see that 100 light up on their guns. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. CLEVELAND (AP) - Three Boston Red Sox threw a baseball 122 feet a second into a new photo-electric pitching meter yesterday. In 1987, McGwire set the record when he threw his fastball at 101.4 miles per hour (162.8 km/h or 43.9 m/s). Source: The Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball, 1997. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. What is the world record speed for throwing a baseball? Real or Not? First Miss Cappy Ogiun, a visitor from Orlando, Fla., tried her speed yesterday. The Detroit times. Mark McGwire of the St. Louis Cardinals and Jose Lima of the Los Angeles Dodgers both reached this mark twice. Its hard to disagree considering that the righty piled up 2,581 strikeouts (26th all-time) during his career and led the AL in Ks seven times from 1938-1948. Felizs fastball was once clocked at 103.4 mph during a game at Rangers Ballpark, a speed that is third all-time behind only Aroldis Chapman (105.1 mph) and Joel Zumaya (104.8 mph). He once threw a pitch so hard that the catcher missed the ball and it shattered an umpire's mask. Average was probably low-mid 80s. Feller's numbers from that season are mind-boggling from a modern perspective. "They put me in the Hall of Fame? 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