By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She may have been killed by someone seeking revenge against John, particularly associates of the gang members he hunted down in the first game. Failing the duel and restarting it results in Ross using a different shotgun to hunt each time, either the. After Jack buried his mother next to his father, he leaves the ranch in order to begin his quest of revenge at Edgar Ross. John tries to learn Jack how to shoot a rifle properly, much to Jack's dismay. Some thought he died in the Great War, others thought he perished due to the cholera outbreak that would be happening around that time (they point to his cough). The screen turns red and black, and the end credits follow. The known family history only traces back up to John's father, who wasborn on the boat from Scotland to New York. At the barn, Jack and Abigail are ordered by John to get on a horse and ride off as far as they can, who promises to join them after dealing with the attackers. In 1899, John was wounded in a train robbery, after being left by his friends to die. His son followed a different path. WebWhat happens if you don't help Mary in RDR2? The age of outlaws was over. Abigail Marston was an important side character in both of the Red Dead Redemptiongames. Jack Marston (1915) After a year, Jack heads back to Beechers Hope. Tilly then rides away with Jack, who is unaware that it would be the last time he saw Arthur, due to his advanced tuberculosis. ", "Go ahead! John's father also hated the English for what they did to his great-grandparents, although he never met them. Jack's dialogue with pedestrians will be more friendly but also jaded and somewhat somber. Related:What Red Dead Revolver's Main Character Could Be Doing In RDR3. Unfortunately, I think somewhat of the same outcome. When referring to Abigail and Johns relationship, Dutch says, We all had her, but he married her. Its also been heavily implied that Jack may not be Johns biological son. Jack reveals that he was treated well by Bronte, being given a box of toys, regular baths, fed spaghetti, and learned the Italian words for horse and slipper. Jack is ordered to stay in the house with his mother while John and Uncle fight off the invaders. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. At least as far as we know from the first game. I like this whole story.. but one thing I don't like in this is the fact that Jack starts calling himself "Tacitus killgore".. that was Arthur's alternate name and Jack had no idea that Arthur had been using that name in 1899.. Most of Jack's other actions during that time period is unknown. While this may seem like a ploy to increase the players emotional attachment to Jack, considering the boy is kidnapped by the Braithwaites shortly after, its inclusion may also be hinting at Arthurs own tragic backstory, and the fact that he never got a chance to be a real father to his son. So probably wont happen. Listening to Ross's comments before the duel, he can be heard cursing when he misses the shots. Finally, John and Rufus ride to the top of Nekoti Rock, finding an injured Jack hiding behind a rock. After ending his business with Edgar Ross, John reunite with Jack and Abigail, as well with Uncle, who didn't keep the Marston Ranch in a good shape, leading all the livestock dead or stolen. His grief and loneliness appear to have developed a severe case of depression and self-loathing. Following the completion of the aforementioned mission, Jack becomes the player-controlled character for the remainder of the game. WebAt some stage during Jack's early years, John left the gang for a year. He isnt robbing banks to get somewhere, he's doing it as a fuck you to the big guys who kept the little guys down. With a lack of knowledge concerning proper hygiene, it was common for sex workers in the early twentieth century to suffer from a variety of sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis. Pick a crew, and plan it out. Gender Jack holsters his sidearm and walks away from the scene. However, Edgar Ross, the agent who John worked for, attacks the Marston family, killing John and Uncle. Died in 1881. 1914- Jack is now a full grown adult his age is 19, he now has a mustache and a goatee he has taken his father's hat. WebI know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. Afterwards, it is unclear whether Jack finally settled down after Ross death or continued a life of crime. The cabin that the Ross family lives in is the same cabin. Jack is later kidnapped by the Braithwaite family and given to Angelo Bronte and is missing from the gang for some time before returning to the gang after they complete a business deal to get him back. Maybe promoting flashback missions? I know many might think that he became a writer, but I honestly believe that he became a marshal or sheriff. Not much is known about John's mother, except that she was a prostitute and died while giving birth to him in 1873. After scaring off the wolves, John asks Jack to stay out trouble. Fordham is convinced that Jack is the outlaw who murdered former director Edgar Ross down in Mexico, but no body was ever recovered. Rewards He wears a beige jacket, a white button-up shirt with a red neckerchief and dark, dirty pants. but thing aren't as dandy as before as the ranch is falling apart and to get by jack turns to money leaders which continue to harass him on a daily basis. After visiting his wife and brother, Jack tracks Ross down to the banks of a Mexican river; the former agent enjoying his retirement with a spot of duck hunting. He joins the army so the Pinkerton's wouldnt find him and he would have time to get away from them. In 1911, Jack and Abigail were taken hostage by Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham, two senior agents of the Bureau of Investigation, using them as leverage against John so that he would hunt down the remnants of the Van der Linde gang, Bill, Javier, and Dutch. But he may have had resentment towards the government for using and killing his father. You dont look much like a Marston maybe a Williamson or an Escuela, Arthur Morgan says during RDR2, implying Abigail likely provided services to Javier and Bill before settling down with John. 1899 And cars should be strategic. Soon after moving to the ranch, Jack went fishing with his father and was later present for his parents' wedding, where John later states how happy Jack seemed. The two find a deceased John in a pool of blood, and Jack comforts his mourning mother. These scars will stay on Jack during his later life. The two go on a hunting trip with Rufus and take down a pair of elk. Josh Blaylock (RDR, Undead Nightmare)Marissa Buccianti (child) (RDR 2) Ted Sutherland (pre-teen) (RDR 2) John was therefore left in the care of his father, who was "blinded in a bar fight, south of Chicago" and later died. In 1899, Jack is living with the gang and is taken care of by its members, although he spends most of his time with his mother, Abigail. Following the bear hunt, Jack's face reminded scarred with bear scratches, resembling those of his father. This is similarly what happened to Thomas Downes wife Edith after he died of TB; she became a prostitute in order to support herself and her son. Though this is speculation, I think it makes the most sense rather than a full on remake of RDR 1. The game has been out for a year, but a potential spoiler warning, to any that havent played it yet. While reading a book about a man who tries to avenge his father, Jack is taken by John to hunt an elk. In 1914, Jack's appearance is radically different. But I would like to think that years after killing Ross. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. In comparison, during the original Red Dead Redemption, after control switches to Jack, youll still find townspeople mentioning John Marston by name. He wouldn't be "anything", he has no legacy like John. WebA long time ago there were several theories as to the fate of Jack. It would be completely pointless. or sadly he likely killed himself from depression. he stands quickly and tells his wife to get the rifle. WebYou play as him after RDR1, meaning (at least for a while) he followed in his fathers footsteps and became an outlaw. In a close hug, he apologizes to John for failing to maintain the ranch. As someone said earlier, hes prime age. He was also the only member of the Marstons who seemed to be in a constant positive relationship with Uncle, who taught him several inappropriate things much to John's disapproval. With this, Jack departs Blackwater. His parents, John and Abigail, were both members of Dutch's Gang. Outside of his talent with a gun (which personally i like to think hes not quite as good as John or Arthur, even though he can use DeadEye) Jack always had his head in a book. not at all were here to turn you into a soldier.. But how old is Jack by the end of things, when he takes up his father's mantle? Attempting to snipe Edgar prior to the duel will result in an automatic mission failure; as well as simply looking at him through the scope, even if the trigger isn't pulled. Jack refuses to back down which results in a duel between the two, where Edgar Ross is gunned down. As the player character, Jack shares most of his animations with his father but is provided with his own unique voice and lines, which tend to include references to his father, mother, Uncle, Landon Ricketts, lawmen, and animals. Martelli's gang can be a gang you take out at some point or convince to join you. Had Children. After being learned how to herd cattle, Jack returns to Marston's Ranch along with his father. Dont think jack would fight for the government after all they killed everyone he knew and loved, Same also I believe he wouldnt even change his name because I knew the government left him alone for 2 years after Johns death ; why would they even bother after an retired agent get mysteriously murdered in a duel , especially if You slaughtered the Ross family in that mission only 1 person knew about a stranger going to deliver a message to Ross. American Jack and Abigail standing next to John's grave. Theplotkicks off in 1899,and it's established thatJack is roughly 4, having spent some of his formative years with the gang. Jack was a bright young man who spent most of his time reading different books that further expand his knowledge. Maybe started again somewhere else (possibly as an outlaw), perhaps tried to become a writer or something. The Marston family is the family of John Marston, prominent in Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. They all died brutally just like agent Milton said they would, Nah I like to think Jack Marston killed Ross and turned away from the outlaw life to shed the sins of John. The Marston family moved around for much of Jacks childhood and were temporarily settled in the Yukon soon after the gangs dissolution, to participate in the on-going gold rush there. John arrives with Rufus and kills the bear, before taking Jack back to the ranch. And the goal is like GTA heists. His whole lifes goal was to kill Ross, the man who betrayed and killed his father in cold blood. That's the end of the story. Her tombstone reveals she was only 37 years old when she passed. Now you're on your own. I figure once he was done killing the guys he needed to he was probably done with it. I know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. San Luis River Jack and Abigail then proceed to bury both John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. "A Frenchman, a Welshman and an Irishman", It is classified as a Stranger side-mission due to the ". Meeting Philip, Jack finally locates Ross down the river hunting ducks. I think that is a good idea. Jack Marstonmission strand:"The Last EnemyThat Shall Be Destroyed" Remember My Family is a Stranger side-mission, the epilogue of Red Dead Redemption and the only mission which can only be done with Jack Marston as the protagonist. The remaining members of the Marston family continue to live on the ranch. Hearing the shots, Jack and Abigail rush to the farm, where they find the corpse of a heavily shot John. Enhanced Reflexes Master Marksman Master hunter Master survivalist Master Hunter Master Tactician Master Horse Rider Skilled Hand to Hand Combatant. This left eight-year-old John orphaned, so he wassent to an orphanage. Arthur tells Tilly Jackson to take Jack to Copperhead Landing, to wait for Sadie and Abigail. We can use a car, but at a certain point we uses horses to get into the woods. Actor The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jacks final age at just 19. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. WebMarston eventually finds his corpse being eaten by vultures. The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. Jack also had one sister. He was the only true innocent caught up in all that mess. The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. Occupation Given how important Abigail wasto the story of bothRed Dead Redemptiongames, the character deserves more closure. She only stopped working when she fell in love with John. Alexandra is a freelance writer based in Montreal. He basically spends a good time after his fathers revenge being a Wild West vigilante. In fact, there's no immediate pressure to do this, and the game will gladly let players roam the towns and countryside as if they were simply replacing John. The game assumes that players will easily accept Abigail died of unknown causes, but it, unfortunately, lost a good opportunity to expand on the circumstances leading up to this characters death. For this duel, targeting Edgar in a lethal manner is required. The first event would've been to leave Micah in jail to get executed. During the night, John and Abigail are confronted by a pale looking Uncle. John and Abigail had two children together, a son, Jack Marston (born in 1895), and a daughter, whose date of birth and death are unknown. Abigail and Jack are then brought to John and Abigail's bedroom, where John leaves them with some food before leaving to find a cure for both. Dialogues Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What would he do when he found them anyway? In 1907, Jack is a young teenager. Jack explains his book's tale of an Aztec man who apparently must kill his people who have been infected by a virus or plague, before he's been cut out by Abigail criticizing the tale as "absolutely disgusting and completely unbelievable". He thought that California would bring him hope, but America is a land of broken dreams. Click to enlarge. Jack asks John if he will come with them, who says that he'll catch up with them, he slaps the horse and it to ran out the barn. After John and Uncle clear the ranch from the first wave of soldiers, the former enters the house and tells to Jack and Abigail to escape to the barn, as well, ordering Jack to stay at the house. Went back to Beecher's Hope and Ranched. Unnamed Scottish great-great grandparents of John - Possibly murdered by the English government. Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. Simply being in close quarters with someone would be enough to contract a fatal disease such as tuberculosis, a common death sentence for the time. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Jack Marston was born in 1895 as the first child of the outlaw John Marston and prostitute Abigail Roberts, two members of the Van der Linde gang. Jack and John fight more waves of soldiers before running off to the barn with Abigail. Based on accounts from his wife and his constant cursing during his duck hunt, Edgar Ross appears rather unhappy with his retirement. As Abigail goes to the kitchen, John asks Jack what he is reading. Jack very rarely leaves the camp, with one notable exception being when Arthur takes him fishing - a trip which is soured by the arrival of Pinkerton agents Milton and Ross. Now under the players control, he buries his mother and, free from any obligations, decides to hunt down Ross and kill him, even though the agents now retired from the Bureau and the murder wont bring anyone back. John hugs Jack before the assault on the ranch. Sometime after helping both Abigail and Uncle, John takes time with teaching Jack hunting and skinning. Press J to jump to the feed. But if we are thinking about this from a "positive" perspective, Jack probably got himself a woman and is a famous author or some cheesy happy ending stuff along those lines. John Marston (father) Abigail Marston (mother) Rufus (dog) Unidentified sister dead Unnamed paternal grandfather dead Unnamed paternal grandmother dead Jack gets a similar haircut like John's, also using the same hat John use's in Red Dead Redemption, and Jack also has scars after trying and failing to hunt a bear to prove he is no longer a small boy. That's kind of a cool thought, Jack in the military. He also finds Charles Smith, a friend from the gang, and the three manage to construct a ranch at Beecher's Hope. Well with the most recent audio glitch we've been hearing around with an older Jack Marston we very well might get a story dlc involving Jack after he killed Ross. Robbing banks and living the high life Bronte gave hin a taste of. The links above will perform a search for the content that matches this page's name. Jack is on par with his father in terms of abilities and skills. Wasnt there a book he wrote in GTA 5 somewhere? A few days after the bear hunt incident, Jack begins to work at the barn, until John enters. Unlocks Soon after the grizzly hunt incident, Jack is found by his father at the barn, where John praises his son for his skill with tools. I could see the government in the red dead universe catching up to him for his crimes and giving him an option of hanging or serving. 1914 Start It's simply that flagship Rockstarprojects now take many years to develop, and the company is simultaneously runningRed Dead Online, meaning that an announcement could still be years away. In 1911, John is forced to take up the role of gunslinger once again when Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham find him at his ranch and force him to hunt down and capture or kill his former gang members by capturing his son and wife. In 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. They all loved their country. The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. I also like to think that he fought in the Great war in 1918 because he is pretty young and by that year he would be 23. Declining to help Mary will prevent players from being able accept a future mission to help Mary's father.If Red Dead Redemption 2 players want to avoid this mistake, they should agree to help Mary. Player choice. Jack Marston (1924) In 1924, Jack quits his Job at The General Store in Valentine and packs his stuff and moves back to Beechers Hope. I know he's not a particularly fan favorite, but I would hope in the future of Red dead games his fate is addressed. A while later, Jack and Abigail bury John and Uncle on a hill overlooking the ranch. Suddenly. In a later incident, Jack helps his father in killing a wolf pack that threatened the ranch's cattle. He will have his own sprinting animation but shares the same animations as John Marston. He became a writer, thats johns Redemption. Nicknames Jack Marston and Edgar Ross preparing to duel, Remember My Family - Mission 58 - Red Dead Redemption, Red Dead Redemption - Ending Final Mission 58 - Remember My Family (Xbox One). Later that year, with the gang on the brink of demise, John is shot and injured during a train robbery and left to die by his former brothers-in-arms, and Abigail is kidnapped by Agent Milton, although Dutch refuses to rescue her. A horse killer? He can be seen doing various different actions depending on the time of the day, playing with a Repeater Carbine during the day, and sitting next to the fireplace and playing the harmonica during the night. John "Jack" Marston Jr.[1] is a recurring character in the Red Dead series, appearing as a central character and the secondary protagonist of Red Dead Redemption, and as a supporting character in Red Dead Redemption 2. It is possible to exact revenge on Ross' family as well, by killing his wife and brother. WebWhat do you think happens to Jack after Rdr1 (Not based on easter eggs. Understanding that the wolves attack the cattle, Jack and John ride after the pack of wolves, and gun down the some of wolves, and manage to scare the rest of them. Unfazed by Ross' threats to kill him, Jack challenges the older man to a final duel. Eventually Abigail is beaten by Uncle who is shot by John. Three years later, in 1914, a 19 year old Jack is seen standing near the graves of John, Uncle, and Abigail, with the latter having died of an unknown cause. And being VERY generous with his cash. 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